Wikipidia:Warung Kupi

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Salamat datang di Warung Kupi! Arsip Ngini adalah tutungkaran nang dipakai gasan mamandirakan masalah téknis, kabijakan, wan uprasi matan Wikipidia basa Banjar. Di sini, Pian kawa bapandir sagala kumintar wan saran tumatan hati nang paling dalam sahubungan lawan Wikipidia. Gasan masalah nang labih ngalih, Pian kawa mahubungi bubuhan pambakal Wikipidia sacara langsung. Jangan kada ingat mambariakan tanda tangan wan tanggal di uncit/akhir pasan Pian (nang caranya mangatikakan ~~~~ atawa mamicik tumbul "tanda tangan" di toolbar pambabakan). Hi! Welcome to Banjar Wikipedia's Village Pump. You don't speak Banjar? You can visit our Embassy page and leave a note in it's talk page or still leave a note here and we will respond as best as we can. Thanks!

Update on page issues on mobile web

Please help translate to your language Hi everyone. The Readers web team has recently begun working on exposing issue templates on the mobile website. Currently, details about issues with page content are generally hidden on the mobile website. This leaves readers unaware of the reliability of the pages they are reading. The goal of this project is to improve awareness of particular issues within an article on the mobile web. We will do this by changing the visual styling of page issues.

So far, we have drafted a proposal on the design and implementation of the project. We were also able to run user testing on the proposed designs. The tests so far have positive results. Here is a quick summary of what we learned:

• The new treatment increases awareness of page issues among participants. This is true particularly when they are in a more evaluative/critical mode.
• Page issues make sense to readers and they understand how they work
• Readers care about page issues and consider them important
• Readers had overwhelmingly positive sentiments towards Wikipedia associated with learning about page issues

Our next step would be to start implementing these changes. We wanted to reach out to you for any concerns, thoughts, and suggestions you might have before beginning development. Please visit the project page where we have more information and mockups of how this may look. Please leave feedback on the talk page.

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 13 Juni 2018 03.58 (ICT)

Enabling a helpful feature for Template editors

Hello.

The team working on TemplateStyles at the Wikimedia Foundation would like to enable TemplateStyles on this wiki.

TemplateStyles is a feature to allow non-administrators to write and manage CSS styles for templates. It allows contributors who edit templates to separate content and presentation. A good web practice that makes it easier to manage the layout of templates. If you don't edit templates, this will not have any impact on your contributions.

TemplateStyles is useful for a few reasons.

• It makes it possible for templates to work better on mobile.
• It cuts out confusion on where to apply CSS rules.
• Editing CSS is currently limited to administrators, which is a major barrier to participation.
• All stylesheets must be loaded on all pages (whether they actually use the page or not), which wastes bandwidth and makes debugging style rules more difficult.

You can learn more about TemplateStyles on MediaWiki.org. Technical documentation is also available.

This is an optional feature and no one must use it, but template contributors are encouraged to do so! Please discuss and let us know if there are any concerns. If there are no concerns we will proceed to deploy the feature on the 9th of August.

Thank you.

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 7 Agustus 2018 04.28 (ICT)

Survei Wikipediawan Indonesia

Mohon maaf karena menggunakan bahasa Indonesia!

Wikimedia Indonesia saat ini tengah mempersiapkan rencana Konferensi Wikimedia Indonesia pada 2019. Kegiatan ini bertujuan untuk menjawab kebutuhan dan permasalahan yang dihadapi Wikipediawan Indonesia dalam berkontribusi di berbagai proyek Wikimedia. Kami meminta partisipasi Anda untuk mengisi survei yang akan dijadikan rujukan oleh Wikimedia Indonesia dalam menyajikan program yang sesuai bagi komunitas Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia maupun bahasa daerah nantinya. Survei ditujukan bagi para Wikipediawan yang berdomisili di Indonesia. Berikut pranala menuju survei. ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 22 Uktubir 2018 14.49 (ICT)

Editing News #2—2018

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Tap on the pencil icon to start editing. The page will probably open in the wikitext editor.

You will see another pencil icon in the toolbar. Tap on that pencil icon to the switch between visual editing and wikitext editing.

Remember to publish your changes when you're done.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

Recent changes

• The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
• The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
• The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
• The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
• The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
• The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [1]

Let's work together

• The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
• The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
• If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Terima kasih!

—Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

2 Nupimbir 2018 21.16 (ICT)

Pendaftaran WikiNusantara 2019 sudah dibuka!

Mohon maaf menggunakan bahasa Indonesia!

WikiNusantara 2019

Halo semua,

Wikimedia Indonesia, dibantu oleh para sukarelawan, mengadakan konferensi regional untuk para komunitas Wikimedia di Indonesia. Konferensi ini akan dilaksanakan di Yogyakarta, 27–28 April 2018. Tema yang diangkat dalam acara ini adalah "Jendela Kolaborasi". Selain berdiskusi dengan Wikimediawan lain dan bertemu muka, konferensi ini juga akan mengajak para peserta yang hadir untuk saling berkolaborasi, terutama dalam mengembangkan konten-konten di dalam proyek-proyek Wikimedia.

Konferensi ini menyediakan beasiswa perjalanan penuh dan sebagian. Informasi lebih lanjut mengenai beasiswa ini dapat dilihat di WikiNusantara 2019/Beasiswa. Apabila Anda ingin menyampaikan presentasi menarik, silakan lihat ketentuannya di WikiNusantara_2019/Presentasi.

Pastikan Anda mencatat tanggal-tanggal penting konferensi. Semua informasi sudah dicantum di WikiNusantara 2019.

Apabila Anda memiliki pertanyaan mengenai konferensi ini, hubungi konferensi@wikimedia.or.id atau melalui halaman Talk:WikiNusantara 2019. Sampai bertemu di sana! ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 13 Nupimbir 2018 20.22 (ICT)

Multilingual Shared Templates and Modules

Hello bjnwiki community! (Please help translate to your language)

I recently organized a project to share templates and modules between wikis. It allows modules and templates to be “language-neutral”, and store all text translations on Commons. This means that it is enough to copy/paste a template without any changes, and update the translations separately. If someone fixes a bug or adds a new feature in the original module, you can copy/paste it again without any translation work. My bot DiBabelYurikBot can help with copying. This way users can spend more time on content, and less time on updating and copying templates. Please see project page for details and ask questions on talk page.

P.S. I am currently running for the Wikimedia board, focusing on content and support of multi-language communities. If you liked my projects like maps, graphs, or this one, I will be happy to receive your support. (any registered user group can vote). Thank you! --Yurik (talk) 11 Mai 2019 12.51 (ICT)

Ruang nama (namespace) Lawang

Saya melihat ruang nama portal mulai dilokalkan menjadi lawang, namun ada 1 hal yang perlu diketahui bersama. Di dalam Wikipedia Banjar belum ada ruang nama portal/lawang. Selama ini portal/lawang menggunakan ruang nama utama yang biasanya dipakai untuk artikel. Untuk itu saya usulkan agar di dibuatkan ruang nama portal/lawang bagi Wikipedia Banjar ini dengan mengusulkannya ke Phabricator. Mungkin Mas @Ezagren: dan Pak @Mnam23: ada masukan? Nanti kesimpulan dari diskusi ini jika memungkinkan akan saya sampaikan ke Phabricator jua. Salam Wirjadisastra (pandir) 17 Mai 2019 19.54 (ICT)

Saya rasa hal tersebut sangat bagus. Saya sendiri cukup lelah menggunakan ruang nama utama. Namun, saya tidak tahu cara mengusulkannya, mengingat saya juga pengguna biasa. Mnam23 (pandir) 18 Mai 2019 20.52 (ICT)

mas @Wirjadisastra: bisa membantu untuk mengusulkannya? Saya sepakat agar dibuatkan segera. Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 20 Mai 2019 08.56 (ICT)

Marakis sabagai pambakal antarmuha

Maraga kagiatan di WBB nang samagin maningkat, ulun handak maajuakan diri saurang sabagai pangurus atawa pambakal antarmuha di bjn gasan mambaiki'i hal-hal téknis cagar mamudahakan gawi mambabak wan lain-lain. Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 20 Mai 2019 13.22 (ICT)

Manjatu suara

•  Hakun Wirjadisastra (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 13.32 (ICT)
•  Hakun Veracious (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 13.48 (ICT)
•  Hakun RaymondSutanto (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 13.50 (ICT)
•  Hakun  ‹› ™    20 Mai 2019 13.58 (ICT)
•  Hakun Taufiq mauliadi (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 14.08 (ICT)
•  Hakun Mnam23 (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 14.19 (ICT)
•  Hakun Mahakam Bahari (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 15.04 (ICT)
•  Hakun Marwan Mohamad (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 18.50 (ICT)
•  HakunAlamnirvana (pandir)
•  Hakun Sriw sw (pandir) 21 Mai 2019 21.30 (ICT)
•  Hakun Helmy Yunizar (pandir) 21 Mai 2019 22.35 (ICT)
•  Hakun Max Irwan (pandir) 22 Mai 2019 08.46 (ICT)
•  Hakun Dikarenakan memang dibutuhkan untuk Wiki ini.--Aldnonymous (pandir) 22 Mai 2019 08.54 (ICT)
•  Hakun Lya sitiaulia (pandir) 22 Mai 2019 13.51 (ICT)
•  Hakun Muklas Khusnul Abdillah (pandir) 23 Mai 2019 00.58 (ICT)
•  Hakun Mudahan kawa maksimal. RieMogerZ 25 Mai 2019 01.45 (ICT)

Wikidata Bridge: edit Wikidata’s data from Wikipedia infoboxes

Sorry for writing this message in English - feel free to help us translating it :)

Hello all,

Many language versions of Wikipedia use the content of Wikidata, the centralized knowledge base, to fill out the content of infoboxes. The data is stored in Wikidata and displayed, partially or completely, in the Wikipedia’s language, on the articles. This feature is used by many template editors, but brought several issues that were raised by communities in various places: not being able to edit the data directly from Wikipedia was one of them.

This is the reason why the Wikidata Bridge project started, with the goal of offering a way to Wikipedia editors to edit Wikidata’s data more easily. This will be achieved by an interface, connected to the infobox, that users can access directly from their local wiki.

The project is now at an early stage of development. A lot of user research has been done, and will continue to be done through the different phases of the project. The next steps of development will be achieved by the development team working at Wikimedia Deutschland, starting now until the end of 2019.

In order to make sure that we’re building a tool that is answering editors’ needs, we’re using agile methods in our development process. We don’t start with a fixed idea of the tool we want to deliver: we will build it together with the editors, based on feedback loops that we will regularly organize. The first version will not necessarily have all of the features you want, but it will keep evolving.

Here’s the planned timeline:

• From June to August, we will build the setup and technical groundwork.
• From September to November 2019, we will develop the first version of the feature and publish a test system so you can try it and give feedback.
• Later on, we will test the feature on a few projects, in collaboration with the communities.
  • We will first focus on early adopters communities who already implemented a shortcut from their infoboxes to edit Wikidata (for example Russian, Catalan, Basque Wikipedias)
  • but we also welcome also communities who volunteer to be part of the first test round.
  • Then we will reach some of the big Wikipedias (French, German, English) in order to see if the project scales and to address their potentially different needs.
  • Even later, we can consider enabling the feature on all the other projects.

In any case, no deployment or big change will be enforced on the projects without talking to the communities first, and helping the template builders to prepare for the changes they will have to do on the infoboxes’ code.

If you want to get involved, there are several ways to help:

• Read and help translating the documentation pages
• Follow the updates and participate in the first feedback loop
• Talk about it with your local community

More ideas will be added on this page along the way

If you have any questions for the development team, feel free to ask them on the main talk page. You can also ask under this message, but if you expect an answer from me, please make sure to ping me.

Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 24 Juni 2019 20.03 (ICT)

Basa Banjar atawa Banjar

Sahubungan lawan babarapa Wikipidia basa banua lain nangkaya Jawa wan Minangkabau nang mangganti autonim bahasa Jawa manjadi Jawa, bahaso Minangkabau manjadi Minangkabau, kikira manurut pandapat Pian, apakah kita umpatan jua? Lamun iya, kita bisa haja maubahinya manjadi "Banjar" haja, jadi tarasa labih handap. Tapi ada satu nang tarasa ganjal, sualnya Banjar itu banyak maknanya lamun dilihat wayah ini, kawa barupa suku bangsa, istilah di Bali, wan ngaran kota di Jawa Barat. Lamun sakiranya handak baubah, kaya apa? Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 12 Juli 2019 10.20 (ICT)

Pandapat

• Banjarmasin aja langsung krna mslkan Banjar sma lwan daerah yg ada d'provinsi lain tapi klau Banjarmasin itu org luar daerah psti tau klau kta org Banjar dngn bahasa Banjar na – kumintar kadada tanda tangan ini dibariakan ulih 182.1.193.40 (pandir • kontrib) .

Ini maksudnya lain identitas kota, tapi kita pakai identitas bahasa, apakah handak "Basa Banjar" atawa "Banjar" haja, gasan di Wikipidia. Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 13 Juli 2019 07.52 (ICT)

• Ulun rasa bagus haja pakai "Basa," tapi "Judul Wikipedia" nih nang dihandapi, "Wikipidia basa Banjar, insiklupidia bibas" asa kapanjangan. Mnam23 (pandir) 14 Juli 2019 07.26 (ICT)

Suara

•  Hakun pakai "Banjar" RieMogerZ 15 Juli 2019 08.00 (ICT) -- Amun gasan Brand baik nang handap haja. Wikipedia Banjar, nang maksudnya manyambatakan Wikipedia bahasa Banjar. Istilah wahini tu jadi simple.