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Editing News #2—2018

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Tap on the pencil icon to start editing. The page will probably open in the wikitext editor.

You will see another pencil icon in the toolbar. Tap on that pencil icon to the switch between visual editing and wikitext editing.

Remember to publish your changes when you're done.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

Recent changes

• The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
• The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
• The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
• The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
• The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
• The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [1]

Let's work together

• The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
• The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
• If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly. We will notify you when the next issue is ready for translation. Terima kasih!

—Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

2 Nupimbir 2018 21.16 (ICT)

Multilingual Shared Templates and Modules

Hello bjnwiki community! (Tolong bantu terjemahkan ke bahasa Anda)

I recently organized a project to share templates and modules between wikis. It allows modules and templates to be “language-neutral”, and store all text translations on Commons. This means that it is enough to copy/paste a template without any changes, and update the translations separately. If someone fixes a bug or adds a new feature in the original module, you can copy/paste it again without any translation work. My bot DiBabelYurikBot can help with copying. This way users can spend more time on content, and less time on updating and copying templates. Please see project page for details and ask questions on talk page.

P.S. I am currently running for the Wikimedia board, focusing on content and support of multi-language communities. If you liked my projects like maps, graphs, or this one, I will be happy to receive your support. (any registered user group can vote). Thank you! --Yurik (talk) 11 Mai 2019 12.51 (ICT)

Ruang nama (namespace) Lawang

Saya melihat ruang nama portal mulai dilokalkan menjadi lawang, namun ada 1 hal yang perlu diketahui bersama. Di dalam Wikipedia Banjar belum ada ruang nama portal/lawang. Selama ini portal/lawang menggunakan ruang nama utama yang biasanya dipakai untuk artikel. Untuk itu saya usulkan agar di dibuatkan ruang nama portal/lawang bagi Wikipedia Banjar ini dengan mengusulkannya ke Phabricator. Mungkin Mas @Ezagren: dan Pak @Mnam23: ada masukan? Nanti kesimpulan dari diskusi ini jika memungkinkan akan saya sampaikan ke Phabricator jua. Salam Wirjadisastra (pandir) 17 Mai 2019 19.54 (ICT)

Saya rasa hal tersebut sangat bagus. Saya sendiri cukup lelah menggunakan ruang nama utama. Namun, saya tidak tahu cara mengusulkannya, mengingat saya juga pengguna biasa. Mnam23 (pandir) 18 Mai 2019 20.52 (ICT)

mas @Wirjadisastra: bisa membantu untuk mengusulkannya? Saya sepakat agar dibuatkan segera. Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 20 Mai 2019 08.56 (ICT)

Marakis sabagai pambakal antarmuha

Maraga kagiatan di WBB nang samagin maningkat, ulun handak maajuakan diri saurang sabagai pangurus atawa pambakal antarmuha di bjn gasan mambaiki'i hal-hal téknis cagar mamudahakan gawi mambabak wan lain-lain. Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 20 Mai 2019 13.22 (ICT)

Manjatu suara

•  Hakun Wirjadisastra (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 13.32 (ICT)
•  Hakun Veracious (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 13.48 (ICT)
•  Hakun RaymondSutanto (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 13.50 (ICT)
•  Hakun  ‹› ™    20 Mai 2019 13.58 (ICT)
•  Hakun Taufiq mauliadi (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 14.08 (ICT)
•  Hakun Mnam23 (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 14.19 (ICT)
•  Hakun Mahakam Bahari (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 15.04 (ICT)
•  Hakun Marwan Mohamad (pandir) 20 Mai 2019 18.50 (ICT)
•  HakunAlamnirvana (pandir)
•  Hakun Sriw sw (pandir) 21 Mai 2019 21.30 (ICT)
•  Hakun Helmy Yunizar (pandir) 21 Mai 2019 22.35 (ICT)
•  Hakun Max Irwan (pandir) 22 Mai 2019 08.46 (ICT)
•  Hakun Dikarenakan memang dibutuhkan untuk Wiki ini.--Aldnonymous (pandir) 22 Mai 2019 08.54 (ICT)
•  Hakun Lya sitiaulia (pandir) 22 Mai 2019 13.51 (ICT)
•  Hakun Muklas Khusnul Abdillah (pandir) 23 Mai 2019 00.58 (ICT)
•  Hakun Mudahan kawa maksimal. RieMogerZ 25 Mai 2019 01.45 (ICT)

Wikidata Bridge: edit Wikidata’s data from Wikipedia infoboxes

Sorry for writing this message in English - feel free to help us translating it :)

Hello all,

Many language versions of Wikipedia use the content of Wikidata, the centralized knowledge base, to fill out the content of infoboxes. The data is stored in Wikidata and displayed, partially or completely, in the Wikipedia’s language, on the articles. This feature is used by many template editors, but brought several issues that were raised by communities in various places: not being able to edit the data directly from Wikipedia was one of them.

This is the reason why the Wikidata Bridge project started, with the goal of offering a way to Wikipedia editors to edit Wikidata’s data more easily. This will be achieved by an interface, connected to the infobox, that users can access directly from their local wiki.

The project is now at an early stage of development. A lot of user research has been done, and will continue to be done through the different phases of the project. The next steps of development will be achieved by the development team working at Wikimedia Deutschland, starting now until the end of 2019.

In order to make sure that we’re building a tool that is answering editors’ needs, we’re using agile methods in our development process. We don’t start with a fixed idea of the tool we want to deliver: we will build it together with the editors, based on feedback loops that we will regularly organize. The first version will not necessarily have all of the features you want, but it will keep evolving.

Here’s the planned timeline:

• From June to August, we will build the setup and technical groundwork.
• From September to November 2019, we will develop the first version of the feature and publish a test system so you can try it and give feedback.
• Later on, we will test the feature on a few projects, in collaboration with the communities.
  • We will first focus on early adopters communities who already implemented a shortcut from their infoboxes to edit Wikidata (for example Russian, Catalan, Basque Wikipedias)
  • but we also welcome also communities who volunteer to be part of the first test round.
  • Then we will reach some of the big Wikipedias (French, German, English) in order to see if the project scales and to address their potentially different needs.
  • Even later, we can consider enabling the feature on all the other projects.

In any case, no deployment or big change will be enforced on the projects without talking to the communities first, and helping the template builders to prepare for the changes they will have to do on the infoboxes’ code.

If you want to get involved, there are several ways to help:

• Read and help translating the documentation pages
• Follow the updates and participate in the first feedback loop
• Talk about it with your local community

More ideas will be added on this page along the way

If you have any questions for the development team, feel free to ask them on the main talk page. You can also ask under this message, but if you expect an answer from me, please make sure to ping me.

Thanks for your attention, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 24 Juni 2019 20.03 (ICT)

Basa Banjar atawa Banjar

Sahubungan lawan babarapa Wikipidia basa banua lain nangkaya Jawa wan Minangkabau nang mangganti autonim bahasa Jawa manjadi Jawa, bahaso Minangkabau manjadi Minangkabau, kikira manurut pandapat Pian, apakah kita umpatan jua? Lamun iya, kita bisa haja maubahinya manjadi "Banjar" haja, jadi tarasa labih handap. Tapi ada satu nang tarasa ganjal, sualnya Banjar itu banyak maknanya lamun dilihat wayah ini, kawa barupa suku bangsa, istilah di Bali, wan ngaran kota di Jawa Barat. Lamun sakiranya handak baubah, kaya apa? Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 12 Juli 2019 10.20 (ICT)

Pandapat

• Banjarmasin aja langsung krna mslkan Banjar sma lwan daerah yg ada d'provinsi lain tapi klau Banjarmasin itu org luar daerah psti tau klau kta org Banjar dngn bahasa Banjar na – kumintar kadada tanda tangan ini dibariakan ulih 182.1.193.40 (pandir • kontrib) .

Ini maksudnya lain identitas kota, tapi kita pakai identitas bahasa, apakah handak "Basa Banjar" atawa "Banjar" haja, gasan di Wikipidia. Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 13 Juli 2019 07.52 (ICT)

• hakun ai , kada ingat tanda "hakun"

Suara

•  Hakun pakai "Banjar", banjar aja sudah cukup karena dari kata banjar ini orang pasti berpikir wiki ini dari banjar dan berbahasa banjar Amang99 (pandir) 24 Juli 2019 19.29 (+07)
•  Hakun pakai "Banjar" RieMogerZ 15 Juli 2019 08.00 (ICT) -- Amun gasan Brand baik nang handap haja. Wikipedia Banjar, nang maksudnya manyambatakan Wikipedia bahasa Banjar. Istilah wahini tu jadi simple.
•  Hakun pakai "Basa Banjar", araha nang di navbar higa natap Basa Banjar, tapi judul wikinya barang dihandapi jadi Wikipidia Banjar Mnam23 (pandir) 20 Juli 2019 13.12 (ICT)
•  Hakun pakai "Basa Banjar", ulun lebih mamilih pakai "basa banjar" supaya labih kaliahatan jua identitas wikipidia kita – kumintar kadada tanda tangan ini dibariakan ulih Volstand (pandir • kontrib) .
•  Hakun pakai "Banjar" , supaya lebih simpel banar ai :v – kumintar kadada tanda tangan ini dibariakan ulih Muhammad Faisal Ansari (pandir • kontrib) .
•  Hakun pakai "Basa Banjar", Fikrizero sekira nyaman lawan jua Basa nih ada jua tulisannya dikenal urg – kumintar kadada tanda tangan ini dibariakan ulih Fikrizero (pandir • kontrib) .
•  Hakun pakai "Basa Banjar", mun banjar aja tuh luas konteksnya bisa daerah bisa bahasa jua jadinya rancu, pakai basa nyaman jelas kalo itu tuh bahasa banjarEsa Gita Shandy (pandir) 23 Juli 2019 13.15 (+07)
•  Hakun pakai "Basa Banjar", supaya kawa membedakan banjar banua lawan banjar-banjar lainnya Raxota (pandir) 25 Juli 2019 16.58 (ICT)
•  Hakun pakai Banjar haja, tapi rasanya ada jua Banjar lainnya, etnik Banjar di India.Alamnirvana (pandir)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

1. Section editing
   • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
   • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
2. Loading overlay
   • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

• Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
• Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
• Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
• Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

• Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
• Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

24 Juli 2019 01.32 (ICT)

Panjatuan Suara: Maulah wadah ngaran (namespace) "Palang" nang fungsinya sama lawan "Portal"

Pamandiran ulun lawan pambakal Wikipidia basa Banjar awan sapalih pamakai nang tatuha, mahandaki "Palang" gasan (Namespace) nang fungsinya sama lawan "Portal", maingat di Wikipidia ngini kadada baisi ngintu, padahal fungsinya ganal. Hal ngini kada talapas dari kahakunan buhan pamakai. Jadi ulun minta kahakunan buhan pian gasan ngini. Mnafisalmukhdi1 (pandir) 23 Agustus 2019 14.03 (ICT)

Nang hakun

•  Hakun ba-Palang Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 23 Agustus 2019 22.33 (ICT)
•  Hakun ba-Palang 源あきら (pandir) 2 Siptimbir 2019 21.14 (ICT)
•  Hakun ba-Palang!!!!! Mimihitam (pandir) 3 Siptimbir 2019 03.39 (+07)
•  Hakun ba-Palang!!!!! Ardzun (pandir) 3 Siptimbir 2019 16.38 (ICT)

Panjatuan Suara 2: Hapus Citakan:Wikipidia dairah matan Tungkaran Tatambaian

1. Citakan ngintu kada responsive, malalar taka higa nang maulah kada bungas gasan diitih.
2. Wikipidia Banjar nginih "malalain", marga Wikipidia dairah lain kadada nang mamasang citakan kaya ngintu lagi.
3. Pandiran ulun lawan pambakal Wikipidia Banjar Ezagren, sidin hudah hakun citakan ngintu dihapus, tapi ulun masih mahandaki kasapakatan matan pamakai nang lain supaya kada tarucau.

Mnafisalmukhdi1 (pandir) 24 Uktubir 2019 19.03 (+07)

Nang hakun

1.  Hakun Ezagren ^{(kirim pasan)} 30 Disimbir 2019 08.26 (+07)
2.  HakunAlamnirvana (pandir) 30 Disimbir 2019 22.06 (+07)